Why do people hate einaudi

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Semipro Tech. I consider Einaudi a composer rather than pianist, though I could only dream of playing as well as he. He is no Zimerman or Kissin, but they are not composers.

I think my teacher said Schumann was not a great pianist, but there's no doubt as to his standing as a composer. Joined: Oct Posts: 14, B bennevis Yikes! Originally Posted by 8 Octaves Really doesn't matter what other pianists think. I know, right? He may well be more popular in the UK than the US. A argerichfan Post Club Member. The top 10 composers, by number of pieces performed: : Einaudi Tons of stuff of his on YouTube, some if it sorta fun.

The decent performances, that is. I'm a member of a classical music group on Facebook which takes itself most seriously Just like when Cameron Carpenter is mentioned in a pipe organ group.

Morodiene Yikes! Originally Posted by Morodiene I consider him "light classical". He is to classical music as Kenny G is to jazz. Equally stupid. Actually, I'd like to see someone make a case for whose music is dumber. Kenny G has never been marketed as Jazz.

He has been marketed several ways over the years crossover, easy listening , but the genre which has financially worked most successfully is Adult Contemporary. Considering the many others in that genre -George Winston and Jim Brickman certainly come to mind- I think it fits him very well, and prospective buyers know what to expect, as well as the label identifying its target audience. But that seems to be a term created for marketing purposes. One can sometimes see pretty innovative jazz fusion labeled under this.

It's not all elevator music I don't think there's anything stupid about skillfully playing an instrument. There are tons of classical pianists who really have nothing more to give than one more average interpretation of the same old pieces.

Yet people go to listen and enjoy it. It may be boring but I would not call it stupid. Both are just vague labels that no one is able to define consistently. As is rock or pop. Classical is only a consistent term when referring to a certain type of classical era music.

And even then we soon get into trouble with the definition if we look into it deeply enough The first half of the twentieth century saw popular forms like jazz, blues and rock steal its audience, while classical musicians were dead set on extracting even more obscurity and complexity from their work.

This was the age of classical avant-garde, an era of disconnection from reality and pursuit of the pure art initiated by the rise of expressionism. The canonical classics of Mozart and Beethoven were still popular, but contemporary classical had lost its marbles. Classical music had gone underground.

This was until the arrival of Steve Reich. A piece consisting of two people clapping? An hour-long pulsing pattern with a blandly self-descriptive title? Surely this is just the same nonsense all over again? But Reich appreciated something other avant-garde musicians did not: simplicity. Reich was still exploring the possibilities of music but without the obscure baggage. Piano Phase , while taking a non-conventional route, is easy to follow. Electric Counterpoint , a load of recorded guitars playing the same phrases out of time, has the evocative progression and emotion of a symphony.

As an aside, Reich was one of the first to experiment with sampling. The Beatles and others took this idea, made some of the other avant-garde tendencies more palatable, then spearheaded a revolution in popular music. Sampling went on to spawn entire genres like hip-hop, as far removed from stuffy elitism as you can imagine. Classical invaded pop from the inside. Several minutes coloured by not much.

The obvious response is that the consideration of the idea in the first place is the revolutionary part, the execution little more than its demonstration. Minimalism continued to grow, encompassing work identified by its sparseness rather than its revolutionary nature.

Einaudi is described as minimalist, irritating many. His work has the hallmarks of minimalism but is assumed not to involve the same effort to create.

Maybe anyone who praises Einaudi is engaging in some sort of cultural appropriation. Do I actually enjoy listening to what is essentially pop dressed up as something respectable, or is it really a subconscious need to feel superior that drives me to buy his albums? He reuses structures and harmonies out of laziness. The only reason anybody listens is to experience the superiority of a non-popular genre. Those who says otherwise are making an excuse, even subconsciously.

Why did he and other composers abandon this style? Some were likely spurred on by innate desires for rebellion and scandal, but these grew from the opinion that conventional music had exhausted all possibilities. Plainsong is known for being hauntingly beautiful, even with the limited theoretical understanding of medieval composers. The Estonian rejected music steeped in intellectual grandeur in favour of unadulterated emotion, achieving not just fame, but a spiritual connection with listeners.

A surprise to some, Einaudi has a similar story. Sep, 4. Oh, and just to add - I know he's not a classical pianist, but that's why I'm here asking, to get opinions from those who know exponentially more about classical music than I Is his negative stigma simply due to his music not deriving from classical music?

I've read that he's considered a "pop" musician, however, when I think of pop music it's more of the new-age "Nicki Minaj" type Again, my youthful naivety is probably overpowering my understanding.. Sep, 5. Originally Posted by lvella.

Last edited by TalkingHead; Sep at Sep, 6. It's not so much the guy himself but rather film music in general, that is widely considered bland. I only listened to one of his pieces for about a minute but it had all the hallmarks of film music. That is, ostinati with variations. Ostinati is that repetitive phrasing you hear that gives the music its rhythmic pulse. It's found in classical works as well but too much film music doesn't venture beyond that. If you're lucky, you may get a theme to break it up.

It sounds tedious. The problem is that film music has to play bridesmaid to the film itself. It is written to be background music and it's just not creative enough to stand out on it's own. Some opera composers use ostinati as well and it's not particularly memorable either - the function is to simply set a mood for the action on stage.

Last edited by Couac Addict; Sep at This space for rent. Headphone Hermit , lvella liked this post. Sep, 7. Yes, that's a better term, Couac Addict : "mood music".

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